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[karan]

I was wondering if any of you who stay near the place where Whitney is laid to rest and if it is open to the public, could offer flowers to her grave on my behalf. It will bring immense peace to me and I would be very greatful!!

[Terrence]

karan, on 28 February 2012 - 03:58 AM, said:

I was wondering if any of you who stay near the place where Whitney is laid to rest and if it is open to the public, could offer flowers to her grave on my behalf. It will bring immense peace to me and I would be very greatful!!

I wouldn't go yet.I heard the area was becomming a circus and they closed the site down to anyone who didn't have a family member buried there. I doubt it will be that way forever. I suggest giving it some time to let the chaos and "excitement" of it all die down before going. I wanna go and lay some flowers but I'll wait until after they place the headstone and the novelty wears off. Maybe late Spring, early summer.

[Terrence]

Mr Jace, on 28 February 2012 - 03:20 AM, said:

Terrence, on 27 February 2012 - 02:50 PM, said:

NippyFanNy779, on 27 February 2012 - 02:17 PM, said:

And to think I was ashamed to admit these things because it just knew I was the only one.

I love you all. Like seriously I love you all. People can hug on me all day and text and call me all day, but I still feel like no one really REALLY understands how I feel except for the people here. And then it hurts because it's hard to be a support system for each other here and offer comfort when we ALL feel the same damn way and are so desperately needing the same comfort from someone. It's a terrible catch 22.

NO LIE!!! I'm feeling the same way. I don't even wanna go too far into it with what else I was gonna say about it cuz I know it'll bring me to tears and I've been trying for the past few days NOT to shed another tear. So far it's worked; my strength is returning, LOL.

Then I find myself wishing I could go back in time to these certain moments and tell Whitney, or Krissy, or somebody that you only have X amount of time left. Make it count. Love on each other like you never have before. In my mind it feels like if they knew the time and day it was coming in advance they could have prepared for it better and it would have made the transition at least a little easier for her family.

[karan]

I was fantasizing that what if it actually turns
into a bad dream coz of our prayers. I mean for real!! Then I started picturing that we would have X amount of time to somehow inform Whitney or somebody else to tell her not to get into that damn tub!
GOD! I know how hard I wish time could turn back to that bloody morning when I woke up and found out about it, and it could all be turned around. She could go ahead and attend that Clive's stupid party and could be doing her thing...
I really wish there was some magic out there...

[Terrence]

karan, on 28 February 2012 - 08:59 AM, said:

I was fantasizing that what if it actually turns
into a bad dream coz of our prayers. I mean for real!! Then I started picturing that we would have X amount of time to somehow inform Whitney or somebody else to tell her not to get into that damn tub!
GOD! I know how hard I wish time could turn back to that bloody morning when I woke up and found out about it, and it could all be turned around. She could go ahead and attend that Clive's stupid party and could be doing her thing...
I really wish there was some magic out there...

And I just need to know WHAT happened. If something happened to her that we didn't know about like a preexisting condition or something medically t that couldn't have been prevented in that instant then fine... But if it was something that could have been avoided!! I right there with you turning back time. Whitney don't drink that wine. Just go head and skip Kelly's party, you don't need that Heiniken, make sure you answer the phone when Kim calls, talk on the phone to your mom a little longer, you don't need a bath, go head and take a shower, matter fact, you smell fine, just throw on some Speed Stick or something and keep it moving, don't let Aunt Mary leave the room, just all these shoulda coulda wouldas...

And am I the only one who still wants to see the dress and hair she was going to wear to Clive's party. I KNOW it was going to be **EVERYTHING.** Almost feels like if I can see the outfit and then close my eyes really hard and picture her wearing it, in my mind she actually made it to the party and again none of this really happened...

[NippyFanNy779]

Terrence, on 28 February 2012 - 08:37 AM, said:

karan, on 28 February 2012 - 03:58 AM, said:

I was wondering if any of you who stay near the place where Whitney is laid to rest and if it is open to the public, could offer flowers to her grave on my behalf. It will bring immense peace to me and I would be very greatful!!

I wouldn't go yet.I heard the area was becomming a circus and they closed the site down to anyone who didn't have a family member buried there. I doubt it will be that way forever. I suggest giving it some time to let the chaos and "excitement" of it all die down before going. I wanna go and lay some flowers but I'll wait until after they place the headstone and the novelty wears off. Maybe late Spring, early summer.

yep we already talked about that pilgrimage. Plus, I don't visit graves until the earth settles back down.

[John-John]

I remembered last week that she did say stuff since the 90s about severe allergies & during the MYLIYL era she battled chronic bronchitis. I've been thinking the ore-existing condition is chronic bronchitis or maybe even COPD from decades of heavy smoking. Not uncommon for 40-something's with her history to be diagnosed with that. I just don't think it was a heart condition. She was swimming so much not only because it was her fave exercise but also because it's a great way to rebuild lung function. Just my gut feelings.

Also the medical community considers addiction as a "health condition" or even depression. I just don't see it being anything else. Honestly she would've retired in a heartbeat if docs told her there was some type of serious malady with her heart or something related.

[NippyFanNy779]

I found myself looking at Kris' pics on twitter and crying because I wondered if we'd ever see that same smile from her again. We've loved her since we knew Whitney was pregnant I remember being a teenager being so excited happy for Whitney because she was having a baby. Then seeing her on stage and when she started to sing and do her little parts.

It is breaking my heart to know that she is in pain. That is just a whole other level of hurt from Whitney's passing.

[Tiffany P]

Of course everything is speculation at his point, but I really doubt she died from COPD. COPD typically has a lengthy course, and if she was at the point that it would've caused her death you would've known she had it big time. Lots of times people are hooked up to a mechanical ventilator in the hospital to help them with it.


What I don't get is how she ended up in the bathtub and no one heard her fall or anything. We know she didn't drown already.

[John-John]

I didn't say she died of COPD. I said it just came to mind as a "pre existing" condition. I was just giving an example. No--I still believe she had some form of chronic bronchitis or maybe another respiratory problem. Yes, it's speculation until the final cause is released but I don't believe the pre existing condition is related to the cause of death.

[karan]

Do you guys believe in ghosts?? Ive been having these wackiest thoughts in ma head. You know here in India, every household/family has a ghost-story to tell. And since ma Granny is visiting us, it was as always an exciting subject to talk about. Im not sure if I believe in these things myself, but I definately am a Chiken$*¥#! I mean even as 'almost' a 23 year old(god Im getting old) I cant stay in a dark room alone! Well, anyway she was telling us about many of those horror myths/stories, also about how our Grandfather once 'according to her' was possesed by a spirit as he disrespected it by accidently stepping on its grave. Well anyway, all these thoughts reminded me that how despite having a weak belief, Im still scared of these things alot, and then I thought how I probably wouldnt be now, coz I know somebody who just died and also belongs to that other world. Ofcoarse Im sounding super-silly right now, but it made me feel good. Being a part of a family of hardcore believers, though my beliefs not that strong, I still felt that she is still there, and she would protect me...I know its very wierd thought, but it REALLY made me feel good!!

[NippyFanNy779]

karan, on 28 February 2012 - 02:14 PM, said:

Do you guys believe in ghosts?? Ive been having these wackiest thoughts in ma head. You know here in India, every household/family has a ghost-story to tell. And since ma Granny is visiting us, it was as always an exciting subject to talk about. Im not sure if I believe in these things myself, but I definately am a Chiken$*¥#! I mean even as 'almost' a 23 year old(god Im getting old) I cant stay in a dark room alone! Well, anyway she was telling us about many of those horror myths/stories, also about how our Grandfather once 'according to her' was possesed by a spirit as he disrespected it by accidently stepping on its grave. Well anyway, all these thoughts reminded me that how despite having a weak belief, Im still scared of these things alot, and then I thought how I probably wouldnt be now, coz I know somebody who just died and also belongs to that other world. Ofcoarse Im sounding super-silly right now, but it made me feel good. Being a part of a family of hardcore believers, though my beliefs not that strong, I still felt that she is still there, and she would protect me...I know its very wierd thought, but it REALLY made me feel good!!

You know its weird Karen, and Eric (Truth) will confirm it because we were together, we went to NY on Sunday after Whitney's service on Saturday and we were walking back and forth across the streets and all of a sudden it hit me we just walked clear across a NY Street and there were no cars coming nothing... we both looked at each other like wow and all we could think was Whit is watching over us.

Then the night before we went to her school and we walked from the car to the front just talking and all of a sudden we turn around and there is a deer RIGHT THERE...like could have charged and killed us but it was just standing there looking at us we didn't know what to do. We stopped we moved to the side it stared at us and just kept moving it didn't run or anything.

[truthspeaker06]

NippyFanNy779, on 28 February 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

karan, on 28 February 2012 - 02:14 PM, said:

Do you guys believe in ghosts?? Ive been having these wackiest thoughts in ma head. You know here in India, every household/family has a ghost-story to tell. And since ma Granny is visiting us, it was as always an exciting subject to talk about. Im not sure if I believe in these things myself, but I definately am a Chiken$*¥#! I mean even as 'almost' a 23 year old(god Im getting old) I cant stay in a dark room alone! Well, anyway she was telling us about many of those horror myths/stories, also about how our Grandfather once 'according to her' was possesed by a spirit as he disrespected it by accidently stepping on its grave. Well anyway, all these thoughts reminded me that how despite having a weak belief, Im still scared of these things alot, and then I thought how I probably wouldnt be now, coz I know somebody who just died and also belongs to that other world. Ofcoarse Im sounding super-silly right now, but it made me feel good. Being a part of a family of hardcore believers, though my beliefs not that strong, I still felt that she is still there, and she would protect me...I know its very wierd thought, but it REALLY made me feel good!!

You know its weird Karen, and Eric (Truth) will confirm it because we were together, we went to NY on Sunday after Whitney's service on Saturday and we were walking back and forth across the streets and all of a sudden it hit me we just walked clear across a NY Street and there were no cars coming nothing... we both looked at each other like wow and all we could think was Whit is watching over us.

Then the night before we went to her school and we walked from the car to the front just talking and all of a sudden we turn around and there is a deer RIGHT THERE...like could have charged and killed us but it was just standing there looking at us we didn't know what to do. We stopped we moved to the side it stared at us and just kept moving it didn't run or anything.

I wasn't going to get into it because I didn't want to sound crazy but I have NEVER in my entire life crossed a street in NYC once let alone like twice or three times w/o there being ANY cars. Like WTF? All I could think was That's Whitney & then the whole deer situation like Karan it was RIGHT there in front of us. It could've charged right at us and KILLED us but it just stood there, looking at us & when we backed away, it just walked across the street, no running, no jumping, just simply walked. Again, I said, Alright Whitney, she's got our back.

[NippyFanNy779]

truthspeaker06, on 28 February 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

NippyFanNy779, on 28 February 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

karan, on 28 February 2012 - 02:14 PM, said:

Do you guys believe in ghosts?? Ive been having these wackiest thoughts in ma head. You know here in India, every household/family has a ghost-story to tell. And since ma Granny is visiting us, it was as always an exciting subject to talk about. Im not sure if I believe in these things myself, but I definately am a Chiken$*¥#! I mean even as 'almost' a 23 year old(god Im getting old) I cant stay in a dark room alone! Well, anyway she was telling us about many of those horror myths/stories, also about how our Grandfather once 'according to her' was possesed by a spirit as he disrespected it by accidently stepping on its grave. Well anyway, all these thoughts reminded me that how despite having a weak belief, Im still scared of these things alot, and then I thought how I probably wouldnt be now, coz I know somebody who just died and also belongs to that other world. Ofcoarse Im sounding super-silly right now, but it made me feel good. Being a part of a family of hardcore believers, though my beliefs not that strong, I still felt that she is still there, and she would protect me...I know its very wierd thought, but it REALLY made me feel good!!

You know its weird Karen, and Eric (Truth) will confirm it because we were together, we went to NY on Sunday after Whitney's service on Saturday and we were walking back and forth across the streets and all of a sudden it hit me we just walked clear across a NY Street and there were no cars coming nothing... we both looked at each other like wow and all we could think was Whit is watching over us.

Then the night before we went to her school and we walked from the car to the front just talking and all of a sudden we turn around and there is a deer RIGHT THERE...like could have charged and killed us but it was just standing there looking at us we didn't know what to do. We stopped we moved to the side it stared at us and just kept moving it didn't run or anything.

I wasn't going to get into it because I didn't want to sound crazy but I have NEVER in my entire life crossed a street in NYC once let alone like twice or three times w/o there being ANY cars. Like WTF? All I could think was That's Whitney & then the whole deer situation like Karan it was RIGHT there in front of us. It could've charged right at us and KILLED us but it just stood there, looking at us & when we backed away, it just walked across the street, no running, no jumping, just simply walked. Again, I said, Alright Whitney, she's got our back.

YESS!!! If It weren't for Karen I think that would have stayed between us because I was like yeah ok not telling that story. Thank the Lord you were with me so we could be each others witness weirdest things EVER!! I have never been that close to a deer in my entire LIFE! and we walked not even a foot past it and it never moved, ran, charged NOTHING just looked right at us almost as if it were staring us down.

[karan]

^^Wow! I know that feeling!
The night of the day I had heard the news I was so devastated and hopeless, I went to the terrece of ma house, got down on ma knees, wept, looked up at the sky and talked to Whitney. Its strange bcoz I was almost an atheist as a teenager...and even as a young adult...
but that feeling that she was watching over me gave me so much peace. Thats why I love believing that there is God. Life is so much easier that way...