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[whitwhit1fan22]

Every1lovesNippy, on 14 March 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

whitwhit1fan22, on 14 March 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

What a peace of bleep he is... I'm friends with a lot of her family members and even though she kept family around she still had a lot of snakes around her cousin said.. Which I belive because people will do anything for a quick dollar. What I don't get is how this guy got the trust of MJ and Whitney

The question isn't about Whitney's trust. Whitney had nothing to do with authorizing who would be at the "family's" viewing. The question is which family member vouched for this known slime to be at the family viewing. That person is a despicable snake.

And I would add that the person who approved this Raffles guy must be a family member since the family is protecting the Raffles guy and forced the funeral home to out him to clear their reputation. This whole N.E. photo business is just disgusting.

I mean we no she couldn't hand pick who was going to be there I'm just saying some things or people you just can't be blind to it.

[Every1lovesNippy]

whitwhit1fan22, on 14 March 2012 - 04:32 PM, said:

Every1lovesNippy, on 14 March 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

whitwhit1fan22, on 14 March 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

What a peace of bleep he is... I'm friends with a lot of her family members and even though she kept family around she still had a lot of snakes around her cousin said.. Which I belive because people will do anything for a quick dollar. What I don't get is how this guy got the trust of MJ and Whitney

The question isn't about Whitney's trust. Whitney had nothing to do with authorizing who would be at the "family's" viewing. The question is which family member vouched for this known slime to be at the family viewing. That person is a despicable snake.

And I would add that the person who approved this Raffles guy must be a family member since the family is protecting the Raffles guy and forced the funeral home to out him to clear their reputation. This whole N.E. photo business is just disgusting.

I mean we no she couldn't hand pick who was going to be there I'm just saying some things or people you just can't be blind to it.

Well, I agree with you that you can't be willfully blind to things like the bad reputation of someone you associate with. This Raffles guy is KNOWN in the business for being scummy. He slimed his way around MJ, and everyone back then was scratching their heads. All I know is that whoever in the family approved him to have access, that person cannot be trusted. Even if Whitney had him around her in life because she just had to be with him (snark), once she died, with his reputation, he should have been tossed out on his ear. The last thing this family needs at this time is some bottom-dwelling pond scum like Raffles trying to ingratiate himself to Krissi. That is the danger. And trust, if you know anything about him, that's where he's planning on going. This N.E. photo leak is all a murky, nasty business. smh.

[KSL415]

This guy sounds all baad.

[John-John]

NippyFanNy779, on 14 March 2012 - 12:40 PM, said:

IMO the writing is on the wall of who began trusting him and let him in the circle but far be it from me to start pointing fingers.

You & me both. When the pic leaked, I posted NOTHING & NO ONE could surprise me. I stopped there and waited as my suspicions grew.

My mom has been keeping up with all of it, even visits here frequently. She said exactly what I was thinking yesterday. She also said to be patient because she has no doubt "everything done in the dark will come to light" eventually.

I will say this: I never for one second believed it was the funeral home's fault or any employee there. It's easy for a lot of fans to believe what those Browns are capable of but can't fathom that there may be a mole within the Houstons.

[dablack11]

This takes me back to what I said when I saw Leola Brown's interview... She said that Bobbi Kristina needs to be careful who she trusts, the only people she should trust are Cissy, Bobby, and herself (Leola), now, i will say this as well... during her interview, i somewhat truly believed she was closer to Whitney than the other Browns (ie Tina), and the fact that she did not mention Pat kinda threw me for a loop. If Pat did have something to do with the leaking of that photo then Krissi does need to be careful.

[JustCJ]

I don't know y'all... This sounds like a bunch of finger pointing to me... The funeral director said only 3 people on her staff had access to Whitney, so that would mean that one of the three "accused" would be the source that allegedly saw Raffles take the picture... Why would they anonymously give this story to Roger Friedman instead of making a public accusation and thereby clearing themselves of suspicion? These "journalists" are just trying to get some more traction on this story if you ask me... I'm just waiting for the story that Whitney herself wanted the photo leaked... Some creative fiction writer on the staff some publication is already working on that story, believe me.

[PontusFromSweden]

A full blown sociopath

[John-John]

JustCJ, on 14 March 2012 - 06:17 PM, said:

This sounds like a bunch of finger pointing to me... The funeral director said only 3 people on her staff had access to Whitney, so that would mean that one of the three "accused" would be the source that allegedly saw Raffles take the picture... Why would they anonymously give this story to Roger Friedman instead of making a public accusation and thereby clearing themselves of suspicion?

Excellent point. No doubt the funeral home is on the defensive & from a business standpoint I understand why they're pointing fingers IF THEY ARE POSITIVE IT WASN'T one of their own. Here's what I think: the funeral home folks are looking at every strange person the family granted access to the viewing. The guy in question is an obvious suspect, known to be shady, & possibly a criminal. The staff/owner believe he's guilty but here's the problem: I don't believe any of them WITNESSED him take the photo. Doesn't mean he's innocent, but lying to the press isn't a legally punishable act (exceptions with liable & slander but seldom pursued & almost impossible to prove).

People are infinitely more complex than the labels, names, and descriptions we give them. Accused but innocent people lie. Sometimes otherwise moral, ethical folks make huge mistakes in judgment or worse. "Bad" people occasionally do the right thing for wrong reasons & "good" people do WRONG things for the right reasons--or for reasons entirely justified if only in their POV. Plus the dynamics within a family; old grudges; ancient hurts/slights; and buried, bitter, unresolved resentments are usually never discussed outside of the family involved. Yet, that doesn't mean the Love within the family isn't real, insincere or that anyone is being a hypocrite.

$500,000 is a lot of money--at the very least taxes have to be paid on it. Even if it was split and shared. I'm glad the media isn't letting the story die. Some fans need to know the exact cause of death for them to feel a measure of closure. Me: I'd like to know if there is/are a rat(s).

[juzly]

yeap, this guy is one of the most shadiest characters on earth!. No one knows what he does, he claims to 'manage' this person that person, he has changed his name a couple of times, stared, defunked, his own companies many times, etc. As soon as he popped up with beautiful Whitney, i went , Oh god. My mums known bout him for years B4. The thing is, the industry know who he is, his been round, he hasn't just popped up and started hanging with beautiful Whitney and co. And i aint even talking bout who took/sold the picture, maybe yes, maybe no, but like wordsmith JJ said everything done in the dark will come to light. NBL.

[John-John]

NippyFanNy779, on 14 March 2012 - 10:44 AM, said:

He was at the club the night of Kelly's party

Get out! I didn't know that! Any idea when he started popping back up near Whitney's circle? I know he's been around forever.

[salute88]

John-John, on 14 March 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

NippyFanNy779, on 14 March 2012 - 12:40 PM, said:

IMO the writing is on the wall of who began trusting him and let him in the circle but far be it from me to start pointing fingers.

You & me both. When the pic leaked, I posted NOTHING & NO ONE could surprise me. I stopped there and waited as my suspicions grew.

My mom has been keeping up with all of it, even visits here frequently. She said exactly what I was thinking yesterday. She also said to be patient because she has no doubt "everything done in the dark will come to light" eventually.

I will say this: I never for one second believed it was the funeral home's fault or any employee there. It's easy for a lot of fans to believe what those Browns are capable of but can't fathom that there may be a mole within the Houstons.

Precisely my sentiments and plans. As sure as I am that the earth is round, thats how sure I am that EVERYTHING will be exposed, I give it no more than a year...

[juzly]

John-John, on 14 March 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

NippyFanNy779, on 14 March 2012 - 10:44 AM, said:

He was at the club the night of Kelly's party

Get out! I didn't know that! Any idea when he started popping back up near Whitney's circle? I know he's been around forever.

I noticed him during teen summit i think. But others will have more insight. Love you forever beautiful Whitney.

[the1nonlydkd]

OMG, this thread has me feeling so confused and naive!! I just can't drum up in my mind there is this much evil in the world... But if anyone wants to PM me and clear things up go ahead, but I am so confused right now! o_O

[NippyFanNy779]

John-John, on 14 March 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

NippyFanNy779, on 14 March 2012 - 10:44 AM, said:

He was at the club the night of Kelly's party

Get out! I didn't know that! Any idea when he started popping back up near Whitney's circle? I know he's been around forever.

This is him with her at Teen Summit 2011



Then this is him again the night of the party

[Every1lovesNippy]

PontusFromSweden, on 14 March 2012 - 06:42 PM, said:

A full blown sociopath

No kidding! Check out his youtube video. http://www.youtube.c...d&v=HKT1aMJnvGc You gotta watch the whole thing. His whole game is how to con naieve celebrities to get to the inner circle.