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Is Raffles van Exel responsible for the picture taken at Whitney's funeral?



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#46 Every1lovesNippy

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 10:40 AM

View PostNippyFanNy779, on 15 March 2012 - 08:32 AM, said:

View PostJohn-John, on 14 March 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

View PostNippyFanNy779, on 14 March 2012 - 10:44 AM, said:

He was at the club the night of Kelly's party
Get out! I didn't know that! Any idea when he started popping back up near Whitney's circle? I know he's been around forever.
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On the actual video of Whitney leaving Kelly Price's party, she looked to be telling this Raffles guy to get up of of her; like she didn't know who he thought he was. But he can use this picture to claim he was Whitney's security team getting her out of a tough situation. Let's see where rolls from here. First MJ, then Joe Jackson, then someone in Whitney's family, then who?

#47 buddha

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 10:48 AM

Oh my goodness what on earth...you learn something new everyday...lol
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#48 Marvin

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 10:54 AM

Oooo chile....If I EVER come across this young man....I am not going to be able to be held liable for my actions.

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#49 Every1lovesNippy

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 10:54 AM

View Postbuddha, on 15 March 2012 - 10:48 AM, said:

Oh my goodness what on earth...you learn something new everyday...lol

Did you see his youtube?

#50 Chocolate

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:02 PM

I'm sorry but I didn't like Pat Houston's interview on Oprah nor did I like Kim Burrell's performance at the funeral. They both sound as if they grew tired of Whitney Houston. (I miss her so freaking much.)

#51 clemsonfight

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:13 PM

^^ That's the first time I've heard anyone say that about Kim... I thought it was always pretty obvious that she genuinely loved Whitney til the very end :(
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#52 Petra

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:20 PM

i didn't like the interview either, but i love Kim, i feel like she's one of the few real, genuine friends of Whitney's..you can just feel all the love she has for her..

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#53 NippyFanNy779

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:48 PM

I'll say it til the day I die...IMO Whitney's ONLY TRUE BLUE friends on this earth were Cee Cee & Robyn. Just because someone is always around doesn't mean they are around for all the right reasons. Cee Cee & Robyn were the roots of Whitney's tree! Nobody needed to see them nobody had to know what they were doing but they held her down. And the rest of the Winans too they loved her like a sister.

The rest of these folks were nothing but leaves and branches.... They either blew away or when Whitney really needed them and stepped out on them then broke.

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#54 truthspeaker06

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:37 PM

I have my issues with Kim Burell but I never have nor will I ever question her love for Whitney. Truth is, she WAS there when in the darkest of moments & held Whitney's hand when it seemed like no one else was around. From what I've been reading/hearing Kim was privy to A LOT & never wavered in her friendship or devotion. Hell, the woman flew over to Germany to be with Whitney because Whitney "needed" her. Whitney said she was in tears because Kim was there & was washing her feet. To know that THAT meant so much for Her & warmed her heart is all that I need. You may not like some of Kim's methods but I truly believe she was indeed a real friend, esp in the later years.
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#55 Chocolate

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 02:11 PM

When Kim Burrell chose to sing A Change is Gonna Come and changed the lyric to A Change Had To Come, it simply touched me the wrong way. It was Whitney Houston's funeral and if her family requested I Believe In You and Me then Kim should have obliged instead of taking that moment to, in my opinion, chastise Whitney Houston. That's just how I feel. According to the comments at the funeral, it seems as if Kim and Ray entered Whitney's life 11 or so years ago and was definitely there through the dark times so I don't question whether Kim loved her. Even though Kim wasn't a childhood friend of Whitney I believe she loved her but her performance at the funeral touched me differently.

#56 truthspeaker06

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 02:15 PM

View PostChocolate, on 15 March 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

When Kim Burrell chose to sing A Change is Gonna Come and changed the lyric to A Change Had To Come, it simply touched me the wrong way. It was Whitney Houston's funeral and if her family requested I Believe In You and Me then Kim should have obliged instead of taking that moment to, in my opinion, chastise Whitney Houston. That's just how I feel. According to the comments at the funeral, it seems as if Kim and Ray entered Whitney's life 11 or so years ago and was definitely there through the dark times so I don't question whether Kim loved her. Even though Kim wasn't a childhood friend of Whitney I believe she loved her but her performance at the funeral touched me differently.

and that's partially what I was alluding too. I may not have liked a FEW of her methods lets not get that twisted but I could never question her friendship. I too thought the performance was "reaching" & a little over the top. I just didn't think it was tasteful at all. Putting that aside, I still think she was a good friend to Nippy when she needed one & that's kinda how I resolve things in my head lol if it makes any sense.
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#57 the1nonlydkd

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 02:26 PM

I truly got where Kim was coming from when she sang "A change had to come" You have to look at it in a spiritual point of view. She was pretty much saying that Angels that walk the earth are not meant to be here for long, and that change from being in the flesh to an angel by Gods side had to come. That's what I got out of it.
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#58 truthspeaker06

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 02:34 PM

View Postthe1nonlydkd, on 15 March 2012 - 02:26 PM, said:

I truly got where Kim was coming from when she sang "A change had to come" You have to look at it in a spiritual point of view. She was pretty much saying that Angels that walk the earth are not meant to be here for long, and that change from being in the flesh to an angel by Gods side had to come. That's what I got out of it.

I did look at it from a spiritual point of view but I still didn't connect with it in that way, esp since it was requested that she sing something else. I guess I just thought that in that moment, she should've stuck with the program. I got where she was going/coming from, but just didn't really feel it
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#59 sinderella

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 03:59 PM

View PostEvery1lovesNippy, on 15 March 2012 - 10:36 AM, said:

No kidding! Check out his youtube video. http://www.youtube.c...d&v=HKT1aMJnvGc You gotta watch the whole thing. His whole game is how to con naieve celebrities to get to the inner circle.

:o Wow!....at him lying to Stevie Wonder.

Anyway there is something I picked up on what Pat said in her interview and I may have heard wrong. When Oprah asked her whether she was mad at who took the photo OR who printed it, her response was that she was mad at those who printed it. Though I cant say how anyone should react or feel, I was just wondering why she wasnt mad at who took the shot AS WELL.
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 04:19 PM

I've sat and read each post in this topic and it's really raising some very interesting questions. Tieing these questions to some comments that have been made by key people involved... Things that make you go hmmmm...

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