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[liz06]

I just didn't want Whitney to be in any pain. I'm not a medical person, I don't even really know what all this means. And when I think of her passing, though it isn't something I dwell on, I just like to think she wasn't in a whole lot of pain when it happened.

Let the reports come out, I don't care what they say, they have no effect on my unconditional love, respect and admiration for the greatest singer to set foot on this planet. I love you Whitney, and I'm thankful for what you've given us. I'm sorry it had to end so suddenly but you are with the Lord you loved most. May you rest in peace dear angel.

[Petra]

I don't know what to say. I was so sure she had kicked the habit. I mean, don't get me wrong, I am not judging in any way, I understand we're all human and sometimes we're just not strong enough. But I was so damn sure!

I also don't think she was an actual regular user, I have a feeling it happened during that party. We have that El Debarge story, you never know.

People will now completely focus on that and they won't let it go easily. I don't know...

[Every1lovesNippy]

It is sad that Whitney relapsed, but she was still battling and fighting for sobriety. She went into rehab voluntarily many times, she fought it, and she was honest about her addictions, honest with herself and her fans, even though it did not put her in the best light. The fact is, she could have denied that she used drugs. She was never caught using, never arrested, never passed out and had to have paramedics called. She could have played the image/denial game as so many others do, but she was honest. That is a big, big step (one I am not sure I could have taken had it been me) and I admire her for her honesty.

Whitney had a relapse which, combined with a heart condition (caused by the really insidious killers that are cigarettes) and the bath, and the fact that all of the many hangers on who made a living off of her were AWOL, just made a set of chance circumstances that were fatal on that day. Any other day, and with the paramedics downstairs as they were, she would be alive today. Her death really was a freak accident.

What is not an accident is the fact that someone close to Whitney was willing to undermine her battle for sobriety by selling or giving her a drug that they knew was harmful to her. That is just plain evil. What is not an accident is that the person or persons were apparently allowed access to Whitney's room before the police arrived in order to remove the illegal drugs and related items from Whitney's suite of rooms. Tampering with a crime scene is itself a crime. Aside from it being criminal, it is imoral, in my opinion, to help a drug dealer to cover his tracks. I would hope that someone in Whitney's inner circle would step up to out the criminal or criminals. I can tell you that I would not let the culprit get away if it were a member of my family, that's for sure. Some will say that I am just angry because Whitney is dead, and I want to lash out; and they might be partly right. But I am also just tired of so much wrong bleep going on and everyone being willing to turn a blind eye. Drug dealing is a crime if you do it on the corner of Florence and Normandie; so it should be a crime, too, if you do it at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

The terrible thing about addiction, is that if you are disposed to addiction, it affects your will power and your intellect; that's why it is so hard to fight, and why I admire those who are willing to face that battle. But a drug dealer is not physically or mentally impaired, he is just making a dollar off of someone's illness, especially when the person is known to be fighting a serious addiction, as opposed to a recreational user (whatever that is). The Beverly Hills cops need to get off their heines and find the drug dealer who committed a crime in their jurisdiction, just like the Los Angeles cops got to the bottom of the situation with MJ's medically assisted overdose. That's what would bring me some closure; bringing the low-lifes who delt her drugs to justice.

[Lisa]

Please pull yourself together. Nothing is worse than her death. The toxicology report is unfortunate, but it changes absolutely nothing. The report was always going to be bad news. How could it possibly be positive news? I'm sad that Whitney was suffering, but it changes nothing, and the media coverage was never going to change either.

There needs to be a significant change in attitude about drug addiction. Until then, nothing will improve. But Whitney will be remembered for her talent and accomplishments, just like every ICON who has been lost too soon.

This is the last thing I ever wanted to happen, but there is nothing we can do about it. Whitney is at peace. She's not suffering anymore. I'm grateful to have been able to experience the magnitude of everything that Whitney was. God bless her, and what she has meant to me and everyone whose lives that she touched.

[artchannel]

let's just love her like we always have. when you love people for who they are, you show incredible love for yourself. If the lesson from Nip is we can learn to love ourselves just a tad more having learned from this and heard the toxocology reports, Whitney will be with us for a long time in our hearts. Let the media do their thing and use her one more time for profit. Then it's over, and we'll just remember the love.

Personally, I'm going on media block.

[artchannel]

Just listening to "I LOVE THE LORD" and boy is she freakin' incredible.

[the1nonlydkd]

I was just talking to my mom about all of this, and its funny because after the interview I went and asked her what she thought about it, and my mom is good for reading people and she says "They're hiding something." We didn't speculate as to what, but she felt that Pat was lying about something. But obviously someone cleared that room out, and they knew of her use. Her whole alibi was too concise and convenient that she was gone at the time she passed. The people around her were too close to not know she was using, and someone had to be an enabler. I can now agree with everyone that the interview was a bad idea, and it was plain STUPID if they knew what the results were going to be.

But another thing my mom said that makes sense is that Whitney looked TOO HEALTHY during the filming of Sparkle and even in the days before her death to be a constant user. We were just talking now and it makes sense. I do think for a good while, Whitney was indeed sober, but somehow fell off and I think her use was more recent, like some are saying, while she was in LA those couple of days, or maybe slightly before that. Either way, I think the use was more recent because she looked really healthy, too healthy to have been constantly using. We will never know the pressure she felt she had to live up to, and it ultimately caused her a lot of pain and drugs was her way of dealing with it. I hurts my heart to know that such a strong person can be broken down by the pressures of people they didn't even know.

All I know is, she was obviously suffering a lot of pain, and she is at peace now. I hate that peace had to be on the other side, but I am happy she has finally found it and I can be at peace with that no matter the cause of death.


I love you Whitney.

[Every1lovesNippy]

Petra, on 22 March 2012 - 10:32 PM, said:

I don't know what to say. I was so sure she had kicked the habit. I mean, don't get me wrong, I am not judging in any way, I understand we're all human and sometimes we're just not strong enough. But I was so damn sure! I also don't think she was an actual regular user, I have a feeling it happened during that party. We have that El Debarge story, you never know. People will now completely focus on that and they won't let it go easily. I don't know...

I thought she was winning her fight, too. She looked so good with Sparkle. And I believe Kelly Price; everyone said Whitney was DRUNK. They said she was drinking alcohol, bloody from a fight, cuts on her wrists, etc. All of that was LIES. Kelly said Whitney was with her the whole time, and there is nothing about the cause of death that suggests that Whitney was high at Kelly's event.

They said Whitney was drinking all night and all morning of the day she died, and there was no alcohol in her system. Remember the alleged eyewitness reporter who said she smelled of alcohol and cigaretts? More lies.

I don't have any way of knowing for sure, but I also don't think Whitney was a regular user anymore. She did Sparkle clean, she recorded with Harvey Mason and did well, she had that conversation with Clive in his bungalow, she was swimming hours per day, etc. Those are not the actions of a relapsed junkie. She was working on her dobriety, for sure.

The lack of marijuana at the same time as the cocaine suggests to me that this was something a bit different for Whitney. And, the fact that the drug paraphenalia was not in her room suggests to me that someone felt the need to try to cover things up. Why would they do that, tamper with a potential crime scene, if it was just Whitney doing some regular coke binging, something she was doing all the time? If that were the case, leave the stuff in the room, and just tell the cops she had been using for ages, had a relapse. Simple, right? One would think, anyway.

I believe Kelly Price. I think Whitney had some champagne, and got high that night on being with her friends where she could be herself and on the music. That's all. What happened after that night, I don't know. What or who led her to take coke on the day she died, I don't know, but the Whitney I saw singing "Jesus Loves Me" was not drunk or high. This I know.

BTW, sorry for the long post, but writing out my thoughts are kind of cathartic for me, so I hope you don't mind.

[Every1lovesNippy]

the1nonlydkd, on 22 March 2012 - 11:06 PM, said:

I was just talking to my mom about all of this, and its funny because after the interview I went and asked her what she thought about it, and my mom is good for reading people and she says "They're hiding something." We didn't speculate as to what, but she felt that Pat was lying about something. But obviously someone cleared that room out, and they knew of her use. Her whole alibi was too concise and convenient that she was gone at the time she passed. The people around her were too close to not know she was using, and someone had to be an enabler. I can now agree with everyone that the interview was a bad idea, and it was plain STUPID if they knew what the results were going to be. But another thing my mom said that makes sense is that Whitney looked TOO HEALTHY during the filming of Sparkle and even in the days before her death to be a constant user. We were just talking now and it makes sense. I do think for a good while, Whitney was indeed sober, but somehow fell off and I think her use was more recent, like some are saying, while she was in LA those couple of days, or maybe slightly before that. Either way, I think the use was more recent because she looked really healthy, too healthy to have been constantly using. We will never know the pressure she felt she had to live up to, and it ultimately caused her a lot of pain and drugs was her way of dealing with it. I hurts my heart to know that such a strong person can be broken down by the pressures of people they didn't even know. All I know is, she was obviously suffering a lot of pain, and she is at peace now. I hate that peace had to be on the other side, but I am happy she has finally found it and I can be at peace with that no matter the cause of death. I love you Whitney.

I just posted basically the same thing. Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I am trying to convince myself it's logic.

[Tejay06]

I started to prepare myself a while back that this could be the outcome. It made it fresh again - just as I was starting to heal. I won't let this stop that process. So much has opened my eyes. I remember when I found out all what was going on in Michael's life, I felt a sense of peace for him, when he passed away. I have a similar reaction now that I know more about Whitney. She is definitely in a better place. I think Diane Sawyer summed up the life of Whitney Houston the best. "A woman who's ethereal talent, is matched only by the uncertainities of all too common life." RIP NIP - No uncertainities anymore


P.S. I have more that I want to say about ppl in her life - I'll keep it cool for now.

[bcnulater]

Yes, it is disappointing to know cocain was in her system. I am too sad for words. But, it changes nothing about my love for her and what a true inspiration she has been and will continue to be forever.

I wanted the report to be retribution, but the reality is that she was human with flaws, just like any of us. In life she took full responsabilty for her actions. She worked so hard and prayed so hard to find relief from that madness. I know she is at peace, and this will provide some comfort. It's just such a devestating loss...

I thank God for her, and it was an honor and privilege to bear witness to her talent. I will cherrish those great memories of performances and laughter and gowns (and bows !) forever.

What happened in that hotel room will never deminish the accomplishments, the kindness, the work ethic, the beauty of her voice, mind and spirit. The vultures will always hover, trying to bring her down. It's done, as far as I'm concerned. No more turmoil. Her music and movies will outlast all this negativity and meanness. Her legendary status is fixed.

We have Sparkle to look forward to, as well as unreleased (and hopefully, live) material.

I just want to send her a big old hug in Heaven. God gotcha, Nippy.

[karan]

Im so numb

It reminds me Good old days are really gone

Why cant time turn back...

[Tejay06]

I do want to add this though, before I take my seat. All that week it was rumored that she was partying and drinking and demanding stronger drinks at the bar. TMZ took pictures of what they said was her last meal. There was beer and wine, I think? Yet, according to y'all, cause I haven't read the report - there was no alcohol in her system. "WHATCHU' talkin' bout Willis?" That doesn't make sense.

So, if that was indeed the food in Whitney's room and Whitney did not drink the alcohol - who did? Who was in there with her? I'm starting to smell an ole' stankin' rat. But again...for now...I'll keep my mouth closed. (Folks walking down the hall all slow and stuff - when other folks are screaming and others touching on coffins and falling out and talking about how the Lord is talking to 'em, NOW and they listening.) It was Judas, Jesus's good friend - that betrayed him. Let us not forget.

[Every1lovesNippy]

Can I just say that this Dr. Drew guy is a moron. Why does he keep trying to make Whitney out to be an alcoholic? Whitney was not an alcoholic. The coroner's report showed no alcohol in her system, so that should have put that one to rest. But, nooooooooo. Not for Dr. Drew. He's still harping on this alcohol thing. It's not enought that she had cocaine in her system, you gotta make her out a slobbering drunk, too? I C.A.N.'T STAND HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Every1lovesNippy]

Tejay06, on 22 March 2012 - 11:52 PM, said:

I do want to add this though, before I take my seat. All that week it was rumored that she was partying and drinking and demanding stronger drinks at the bar. TMZ took pictures of what they said was her last meal. There was beer and wine, I think? Yet, according to y'all, cause I haven't read the report - there was no alcohol in her system. "WHATCHU' talkin' bout Willis?" That doesn't make sense. So, if that was indeed the food in Whitney's room and Whitney did not drink the alcohol - who did? Who was in there with her? I'm starting to smell an ole' stankin' rat. But again...for now...I'll keep my mouth closed. (Folks walking down the hall all slow and stuff - when other folks are screaming and others touching on coffins and falling out and talking about how the Lord is talking to 'em, NOW and they listening.) It was Judas, Jesus's good friend - that betrayed him. Let us not forget.

Well, yeah. There were two different meals ordered, and two different drinks ordered. And Whitney was not much of a drinker and did not have alcohol in her system. And all her regular people were for some reason AWOL. Duhhhhhhhhh. Ya think maybe there was someone else there?